Meeting documents
- Meeting of Licensing Committee, Monday, 24th February, 2020 6.30 pm (Item 11.)
Minutes:
The Committee
received a report which asked Members to consider making amendments to the
current table of Hackney Carriage fares, following a request from the Trade.
The Chairman
welcomed members of the Trade and their representatives and explained the procedure
regarding public speaking at this Committee which was with the agreement of the
Chairman.
In presenting
his report, the Licensing Manager corrected a typographical error in paragraph
3.5 which should refer to paragraph 3.3 and not 2.3 and also referred Members
to the supplementary Agenda pack and Appendix 5 being representations from the
Trade Association. The Licensing Manager explained the background to the
report, and clarified that the Committee was being asked to make a
recommendation to the Head of Healthy Communities, who had delegated authority
to make a final decision following a consultation period, should any changes be
recommended.
Members were
informed that the request from the Trade would result in an increase to the
“flag†rate of 50p, and a reduction in the distance and time before each
incremental increase to the fare. Full details of the request and the two
proposals submitted could be seen at Appendix 2 to the report.
Mr Umar Hayat
and Councillor Qaser Chaudhry were then invited to
address the Committee on behalf of the Trade. Mr Hayat gave a brief
introduction, which summarised the reasons for the request to increase fares.
Mr Hayat explained that there had not been a substantial increase in fares
since 2008, with only a minor uplift being applied in 2012. In that time, the
running costs for vehicles and the overall cost of living had increased
substantially. It was therefore requested that the fares be increased to
reflect this. Mr Hayat also stated that the Trade wished to request that a
scheduled review of fares be included in the Council’s Hackney Carriage and
Private Hire policy, so that fares could be reviewed every 2 years rather than
on an ad hoc basis as at present.
Following the
introductions, Members of the Committee were invited to ask questions of the
Trade representatives.
In response to
a question regarding the average journey distance, Mr Hayat informed Members
that although journeys varied, and included journeys to Heathrow or more local
trips, the average was around two miles. The proposals would mean an increase
of around £1 on the cost of an average journey of two miles. The proposed
reduction in yardage for the “flag†rate would mean that there was a smaller
increase in the fare for shorter journeys which were often taken by elderly
customers who may have to pay 20p to 30p more on average.
A Member
raised concerns that a large increase in fares could dissuade customers from
using taxis, which would in turn affect the financial wellbeing of drivers and
therefore how would the Trade be able to balance this. Mr Hayat stated that
this issue had been acknowledged and discussed by the Trade, however the
proposed increase had taken this into consideration and was necessary as it
would not be sustainable to keep fares at their current levels. It was also
stated that during the recession no increase had been requested and the Trade
was happy with the proposed increase.
Councillor
Chaudhry added that fares in Chiltern District had not increased for a number
of years and that the Trade had refused to request an increase during the
recession, therefore an uplift should be considered given the increases in
costs. It was also noted that other areas, including London, had seen a number
of fare increases in the years since the last increase in Chiltern District.
A Member
questioned how any fare increases would be advertised to the public. The
Licensing Manager advised that the Council had a statutory duty to publish two
notices in the local newspaper to make the public aware of any changes to
fares. The Council could also use social media and other channels to raise
awareness including on the Council’s website. Drivers would also be issued with
a new fare card for passengers with the date any increase had been adopted.
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It was queried
whether the proposed increase in fares would provide a sustainable income for
drivers, or whether further increases in future would be needed to bring the
fares to an acceptable level. In response, Mr Hayat stated that this was why
the Trade had also requested the Hackney Carriage and Private Hire policy be
reviewed every two years, so that fares could be assessed against inflation in
future. The Licensing Manager advised the Committee that there were various
approaches taken by Councils across the County but a regular review could be
included in the policy if Members desired.
A question was
raised concerning the new Buckinghamshire Council, and whether a harmonisation
of fares would be required across the county. Members were advised that each of
the current District areas would remain as separate charging zones with their
own fares.
Several
Members expressed their support for the proposed increase in fares, due to the
rising costs for operating Hackney Carriage vehicles and the increased cost of
living since the last review and the increased number of taxis. Members were
also pleased that the effect of an increase on some customers including
pensioners had been taken into consideration. Members also supported the
request to review fares on a more regular basis.
After having
asked questions of the Trade representatives, the Committee went on to discuss
the proposals set out in the report. The Licensing Manager explained that the
two proposals were similar although option 2 would make the “flag†rate longer
than option 1 which would make shorter journeys cheaper. When asked by the
Chairman, the Representatives of the Trade indicated that option 1 was their
preferred option. The Committee agreed that the fares needed to be increased
and supported option 1 which had been put forward by the Trade.
In relation to
changing the policy to include provision for a regular review of fares, Members
expressed their support for a bi-annual review to be included in the policy.
Members felt that the inclusion of a bi-annual review in the Council’s policy
would make a stronger case for the inclusion of a review in Buckinghamshire
Council’s policy when the existing Policies were harmonised. Officers advised
that the policy may be
able to be changed as a minor amendment by the Head of Healthy Communities in
consultation with the Chairman of the Licensing Committee, without the need for
a formal review of the Policy and a report to the Committee. However, this
needed to be further explored and it was agreed that Members of the Committee
would be kept informed by email.
The Chairman
reminded Members of the two Options which Members then
discussed in more detail including the differences between them including the
flag rate, yardage and increases over different distances.
Having agreed that an
increase in Fares was appropriate, Members RESOLVED:
1. To recommend to the Head of Healthy Communities that the proposed
increase in the table of fares as set out in option 1 at Appendix 2 be accepted
and to consult with the taxi meter companies and advertise the rate
accordingly.
2. That if no objections are received, the agreed increase to the
table of fares set out in option 1 in Appendix 2 is to become effective at the
conclusion of the consultation period.
3. That any objections received be considered by the Head of Healthy
Communities in consultation with the Chairman of the Licensing Committee and
the table of fares be approved with or without modification, and the approved
table of fares to come into effect on 27th March 2020.
4. That there be a bi-annual review of Fares and consideration be
given to reflecting this in the Councils adopted Hackney Carriage and Private
Hire Policy by way of a minor amendment.
As this was
likely to be the final meeting of the Councils Licensing Committee, the
Committee Members thanked the officers for their support.
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